In the full stream, Jay and Tristan continue where the discussion left off, noting the numerous fallacies that underly the vegan worldview. Based on a strict and arbitrary approach, veganism is not a position based around health, but the notion of strict ethical standards, supposedly. But are these ethics based on anything that isn't arbitrary or a restatement of endless logical fallacies? We will find out. We had connection issues throughout but we persevered.