In this episode, we talk with Cathy Lee about the importance of measuring impacts to ensure that funds will indeed support sustainable, climate-smart and inclusive initiatives, and contribute to 'building back better'. She shares her perspective on the need for standards to go beyond 'do no harm' to women and gives the example of the W+ Standard, which supports transparency in evaluating claims of women’s empowerment and ensures that benefits that are claimed to be happening or promised in future, do in fact happen.Cathy Lee is the Managing Director of Lee International, an international consulting firm that provides legal, regulatory and advisory services to clients around the world to help them mitigate and adapt to the impacts of climate change. Her clients have included developers, sellers and buyers of carbon credits in the compliance and voluntary markets around the world. Cathy is an attorney with 39 years of legal experience and 35 of them in the energy and environment sectors.