Joshua David Stein and Jason Gay try to wrap their heads around the horror movie that is climate change with help from Dr. Camilo Mora, professor at The University of Hawaii at Manoa and author of a new, mind-blowingly depressing paper that shows a little too clearly what's coming our way, disaster-wise. Mora is also a dad, and he, along with Fatherly's parenting expert, Patrick Coleman, talk to Joshua and Jason about how to help their kids navigate this new reality — and be authentic dads in its midst. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.