Josh and Jason talk to two of the most famous chefs of today, Daniel Boloud and the international superstar Jamie Oliver. Boloud discusses his second round of parenthood and what he learned along the way, while Oliver lets us know that it's okay to fail. In between, our hosts talk about their own fatherly practices in the kitchen, and we find out that imaginary restauarants are far more common than one would think. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.