We hear from two blind women about their experiences of living through the current conflict in Palestine and Israel. Dalal Al-Taji lives in Khan Yunis in the south of the Gaza Strip and Heather Stone lives in the northern area of Tel Aviv in Israel. They speak frankly about how their lives have been affected and dealing with the uncertainty of being blind during a war.

During the 2014 conflict, Peter spoke to two blind women on either side; one of them was Dalal Al-Taji. To listen to that programme, visit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b049yqzl

Presenter: Peter White
Producer: Beth Hemmings
Production Coordinator: Liz Poole
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