In this episode, host Rebecca Moffett, President of Vanguard Charitable talks with Hannah Kemp, Vice President for Impact and Growth at Surgo Ventures about what's next in the pandemic and philanthropy and understanding how to strengthen our communities by using data. Co-hosting with Rebecca is Magda Guillen Swanson, who manages the research and development program at Vanguard Charitable and partnered with Surgo to develop the Nonprofit Aid Visualizer (NAVi) which helps donors connect with nonprofits in need that focus on particular issue areas.