Rose Hackman is on the show this week! Rose is a journalist whose work on gender, race, labor, policing, housing, and the environment―published in The Guardian―has brought international attention to overlooked American policy issues, historically entrenched injustices, and complicated social mores. 
Rose’s book, Emotional Labor, is a journalistic deep dive in which she shares the stories of hundreds of women, tracing the history of emotional labor, exposing common manifestations of the phenomenon, and empowering us to forge pathways for evolution, justice, and change.
Throughout our conversation, we often discussed emotional labor from the female perspective and explored its effect on race, class, relationships, and the workplace. If, after listening to our conversation, you’re intrigued and want to learn more, I encourage you to check out Rose’s book! 
In this episode, you’ll hear:
4:18 Emotional labor: Rose describes what it is and looks like in different scenarios
6:28 How race, gender, and class unequally shape the load we carry
15:27 Rose answers, “Do you think women going through “the great divorce” is indirectly related to emotional labor?”
30:47 Our conversation moves to solutions, and we discuss some strategies for leveling the imbalances that contaminate our relationships, social circles, and households 
38:08 Rose shares tools or rebuttals for when someone makes you feel as though the work you are doing is not real work
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