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Olivia Rodrigo + Pinay pop, with Karen Tongson

Olivia Rodrigo + Pinay pop, with Karen Tongson

FromTime To Say Goodbye


Olivia Rodrigo + Pinay pop, with Karen Tongson

FromTime To Say Goodbye

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Length:
82 minutes
Released:
Sep 20, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

Hello from karaoke! This week, we bring you more Olivia Rodrigo content–with Karen Tongson, USC professor, podcast co-host, and lover of all singable musics! [28:50] Jay and Tammy* go deep with Karen on her childhood with musician parents, AzNs in California’s Inland Empire, overseas Filipino workers (OFWs), transpacific music circuits, and why it’s racist to pile on a twenty-year-old Pinay pop star. [3:25] But first, some takes on Hasan Minhaj’s “emotionally true” standup act. (*Sorry for Tammy’s absence partway, then fully halfway, through the ep… and all the water noise, lol. NY apartment life, what can you do?) In this episode, we ask: * Why are Filipinos so often accused of copycat artistry? * How does Filipino music resist the long tail of American colonization?* What makes Olivia’s music so delectable (and so suburban Asian American?!)? * When is race comedy funny?For more, see: * A 2021 TTSG episode about the Inland Empire (Environmental justice, Amazon logistics, and immigrant workers, with Andrea Vidaurre) * Bruno Mars doing Pandora on SNL (at 23:50)* Jay’s review of “GUTS” on behalf of Gen X dads * Karen’s newest book, out this November, Normporn: Queer Viewers and the TV That Soothes Us, and an earlier exploration of her namesake in Why Karen Carpenter Matters [excerpt here]* More on Filipino performance and colonial histories in Puro Arte: Filipinos on the Stages of Empire, by Lucy Mae San Pablo Burns* Clare Malone’s story on Minhaj and his slippery “emotional truths” Subscribe on Patreon or Substack to join our Discord community. You can also follow us on Instagram, TikTok, and X (Twitter), and email us at timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe
Released:
Sep 20, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode

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A podcast about Asia, Asian America, and life during the Coronavirus pandemic, featuring Jay Caspian Kang, Tammy Kim, and Andy Liu. goodbye.substack.com