This week, we are joined by Tania Hary, the executive director of Gisha (“access”), an Israeli legal organization that fights for the freedom of movement of Palestinians. [2:25] We discuss the restrictive status quo that was in place long before October 7, in which Israel controlled travel in and out of the occupied territories, the flow of goods and food into Gaza, and the Census-like registry of the Palestinian population (that is implicated in the questioning of Gazan fatalities). [30:45] Tania explains how political repression and compulsory military service convince many Israelis that theirs is the “most moral army in the world.” In this episode, we ask: How are Israelis consuming images from and narratives about Gaza? What does it mean for politicians and media to dispute information, namely death counts, coming from sources in a besieged Gaza? What does this war reveal about the world order, humanitarian law, and human rights? For more, see: * A recent press conference on how to report accurately on Gaza, featuring Tania* Reporting from Haaretz on the backlash against Arab Israelis* Tania’s testimony before the UN Security Council earlier this year* Protesters braving it in Tel Aviv this past weekSubscribe on Patreon or Substack to join our Discord community and participate in our upcoming IRLish book event. You can also follow us on Instagram, TikTok, and X (Twitter), and email us at timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com.  This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe