Jer and Jerm chat with Monica Sierras & Colin Smith about the origins of Dodgeball , Cockroach! and their current project Pentagrams and Daises . Colin talks about recording with Frank Melendez from Sprung Monkey that turned into a couple 7inch records as well as the idea of a secret song on a local CD  called Lump Of Coal . Bands on the CD were :Spazboy, Swindle, Dodgeball , carter Peace Mission, Everready , Jon Cougar Concentration Camp, Third Rale and the Neighbors ,. with and all star jam for the 12 days of christmas  We chat about the handmade merch and Colin's artistic outlet while working at Tower records . Touring struggles and band members over the years with Dodgeball . Colin and Monica eventually getting married . We play some music and dive into the origins and concept behind cockroach! , Monica shares crazy stories of their singer  Mike and his antics on stage like shaving his eye brows  as well as Mike losing his glasses in the pit while Green Day was playing and being called up on stage to sing a song with Billy Joe . Serg from System of a Down liking the name Pentagrams and Daises and hence they kept the name . I mention my heavy drinking by throwing blame to being "sponsored" by Bud Light and eventually Coors .(long running joke . Great stories and a fun time reuniting with former bandmates ! My ring alarm goes off randomly during the interview !