In this episode of the Fear Free Childbirth podcast, I chat to Heather, who shares her inspiring journey from being tokophobic to becoming a mother of two.



Heather never expected to have children but decided to confront her fears for the sake of her relationship. She initially came across my work in her search for information about tokophobia and Heather ended up finding a supportive community* that understood her struggle to support her on her journey.

*Heather took part in one of my tokophobia group programs that runs a few times a year. Find out more about my programs here.

Heather shares her experience of going from fearful to fearless. She was someone who suffered with terrible tokophobia and not only went on to becoming a mother and now expecting her second, but also quit her therapy practice to set up on her own. Truly fearless! . But not only that, on

As part of this chat. we discuss the need to take women's fears seriously and explore their specific concerns, rather than dismissing them. Heather believes tokophobia is not well-known enough and hopes that by discussing it, more women can receive the support they need. This is something that I agree with whole-heartedly!

This episode provides valuable insights for both women experiencing tokophobia and professionals supporting them. I hope that Heather's story serves as an inspiration to those who suffer with terrible fears that they too can embrace the journey of motherhood.

Listen to us as we explore and unravel the answers to these most pressing questions:

What is tokophobia?
How did the guest, Heather, overcome tokophobia?
Why did she choose to have an elective cesarean?
How did she feel about their experience with the elective cesarean?
What resources are available for women with tokophobia?
How long did it take for her to get pregnant after starting the program?
How did she initially feel about the possibility of getting pregnant?
Did she have any doubts or uncertainties about becoming pregnant?
What is the prevalence of tokophobia among women?
How can professionals offer support to women suffering from tokophobia?

Tokophobia, the fear of childbirth, is a complex and often underestimated condition that affects many women. Through Heather's story, I hope that you can learn about the challenges faced by those with tokophobia and how they can find support and freedom from this condition.

Here are some of the main themes we discuss;

Navigating Unexpected Fears: Heather opens up about her unexpected path to motherhood. Initially, she didn't anticipate having children, but as her relationship grew, she felt motivated to understand and confront her fears for the sake of her partnership. Heather found solace in connecting with others who shared her fear, providing her with a safe space to discuss her concerns and gather valuable information.

A Journey of Empowerment: Heather's journey began when she started one of my group tokophobia programs. Completing this program enabled Heather to overcome her fears and make an informed decision about starting a family. The availability of resources like group programs and one-on-one support options proved instrumental in Heather's journey.

The Surprising Reality: As Heather embarked on her pregnancy journey, she had many preconceived notions about childbirth, fearing the worst. However, her actual experiences in the hospital were quite different from what she had imagined. The support she received from healthcare professionals, particularly her midwife, played a crucial role in alleviating her anxieties and creating a calming environment.

Having a Choice: One essential aspect that emerged from Heather's story is the significance of having a choice when it comes to pregnancy and childbirth. She emphasises the importance of healthcare providers taking women's fears seriously and not dismissing or downplaying them. The ability to explore different options,