"How do I help someone who is grieving?" This is the perennial question when it comes to showing up for people we care about after someone dies. Zack Wheat, a Board Certified Chaplain, knows more than most about what people who are grieving need - and don't need. Professionally, Zack knows about this from his work as a hospital chaplain for an inpatient palliative care team. He also knows about it from his time volunteering as a facilitator in peer grief support groups at Dougy Center. But, long before he was a hospital chaplain or a grief group facilitator, Zack learned about how to be there for others when he was 21 and his friend Leanna died in a car accident.  In this episode we talk about: What it was like for Zack to speak at his friend’s funeral  His draw to working as a chaplain  The difference between hospital and hospice chaplaincy  How the pandemic impacted Zack and his hospital colleagues  What people who are grieving need – and don’t need  How to be human with other humans who are grieving  What keeps people from showing up for others  The value of acknowledgment, empathy, and presence  What Zack’s learned as a facilitator in a peer grief support group