【聊了什么】 “外宾”是个很刺眼的词，我们也会常常被指做“外宾”。我们每天输入和阅读的文字当中，有很大一部分来自于“外宾视角”下的中国。 许多英文作者、或者中国作者，用冷冰冰的英文，来向我们介绍和描述一个热气腾腾的、真实的中国。这里面的撕裂，让我们想要去做一期节目。 在英文写作中，在非虚构故事中，二代移民 VS 中国本土视角有怎样的冲突？故土和历史的距离赋予了许多华裔作家自由创作的权力，但同时他们仿佛拥有看起来很刺眼的特权。英文环境下长大的人能否准确地刻画对于在中国长大，生活的人，和人们真实经历的生活？以及如果你是一个中国出生长大的作家，用英语写作是一种对思维和真实经历的折损吗？本期请来了我们的好朋友Rui Zhong（华人二代移民）, Karoline Kan（用英语写作、常驻北京的中国记者）和Caiwei Chen（英文写作者、记者），让她们聊聊自己用英文书写的经历。 "Being foreign" is a harsh way to describe a group of people. And we are often referred to as "foreign guests". A large part of the reading we devour every day comes from this "foreign guest perspective". Many English writers, or Chinese people who write in English, would use a cold, alienated tone to portray a "real China." However, we sense China in a more vivid way. The dichotomy of competing China narratives inspired this episode. In English writing, in non-fiction stories, what is the conflict between the perspectives of second-generation immigrants and Chinese natives? The distance between homeland and history has given many Chinese-American writers the power to create freely, but at the same time they seem to have privileges that some of us don't have. Can people who grew up in an English-speaking environment accurately describe China as a country and experience? And if you are a writer born and raised in China, is writing in English a compromise of your authentic thinking and wholeness? In this episode, we invited our friends Rui Zhong, Karoline and Caiwei to talk about their experiences of writing in English. 【时间轴】 00:00 这期节目的起源: 一本我们吐槽的、关于文革的虚构小说 08:20 二代移民 VS 中国本土视角差别在哪里 16:50 为什么我们会感到某种“不公”，在输出英文时，中国写作者的尝试更艰苦，要付出更多情感劳动 19:27 Karoline Kan用英文写自传时的经历 35:00 “谁的声音被听到“和身份政治叙事的短板 45:00 需要更多全世界都能的共情故事 50:20 为什么我们不再不解释 & Chaoyang Trap House广告时间 00:00 What inspired us to do the show: a fictional novel about the Cultural Revolution that we rant about 08:20 What is the difference between the second-generation immigrants and the Chinese native perspective 16:50 Why do we feel some kind of "injustice", Chinese writers try harder and pay more emotional labor when writing in English 19:27 Karoline Kan's experience writing her autobiography in English 35:00 "Whose voice is heard" and the identity politics 45:00 Need more universal stories 50:20 Why we don't explain in our writings anymore & the genesis story of Chaoyang Trap House 【课外阅读】 本期嘉宾Karoline Kan的书 Under Red Skies: Three Generations of Life, Loss, and Hope in China 本期开头提到的小说，Vanessa Hua，Forbidden City 作者采访 【买咖啡】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022