On The Meta-Podcast (formerly Integral Podcasters), we talk with podcasters, YouTubers, and other media producers who are trying to offer, or who can't help but offer more integrative perspectives.  Who are these people, what do they collectively understand and point towards, and how can they be interlinked, mutually supported, clarified, and amplified?  
Layman is joined by Paul Bloch, the co-founder of Fathom.fm, an AI-driven podcast app, about this innovative new technology (which allows you to search for content inside, and identify themes across, multiple podcasts, and much more); about the promise and risk of AI generally; about the present and future of social media platforms; and about the inner skills necessary to navigate our complex, contemporary information landscape.  
Fathom app https://hello.fathom.fm/ 
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