Music theory has long been a space in which white male scholars analyze music  by white male composers. But many music theorists are actively trying to change that, and our guest today, Professor Ellie Hisama, is foremost among them. In this conversation, we discuss her pioneering work on women modernist composers; diversifying the music theory classroom; her recent scholarship on gender discrimination in music theory, including sexist and homophobic comments made by Milton Babbitt; and a lot more. Ellie Hisama is Professor of Music, Music Theory and Historical Musicology at Columbia University.Show notes and more over at soundexpertise.org!Questions? Thoughts? Share them with Will on Twitter @seatedovation