In this episode I speak to the incredible Robyn Gobbel, and when I say you’ll want to listen to this, you should really trust me on this one.Robyn is a former therapist turned author, podcaster, educator, and community creator, supporting the grown-ups who care for kids with vulnerable nervous systems and big, baffling behaviors. Her work has been with children with histories of complex trauma, through which she takes a relational neuroscience approach to understanding what behaviour REALLY is. She draws from interpersonal neurobiology, attachment theory, the neurosequential model of therapeutics, polyvagal theory (and more).We dive deep into two concepts that will flip the way that you see the big baffling behaviours in your classroom, as well as revealing some really fundamental problems with how we are able to work with our students with trauma: Connection or protection, and the owl, possum, and watch dog pathways of the brain.Oh, and teachers, want some help in working with challenging parents? Robyn helps you with that too. She really is that good.This episode is full of information that every human being needs to bring more compassion to yourself, and to others in the world. If you want to see more of Robyn and her work (which is a big hell yes from me), you can do so by following her over on Instagram @robin.gobbel or heading to the links below:Host- The Baffling Behavior Show podcastCreator- Being With {an immersion course for parenting professionals}Creator- The Club {a virtual community for parents of kids with big, baffling behaviors}Author- Raising Kids with Big Baffling Behaviors: Brain-Body-Sensory Strategies that Really Work (forthcoming September 21, 2023}