This interview was done via satellite at 9,000 ft so there are some intermittent sound quality issues. Patricia Turner is a graduate of the University of California, San Diego and biological anthropologist.  After running her own business in visual merchandise for 20 years, she returned to college and worked at Scripps Institution of Oceanography as a research scientist. One of her greatest motivators was seeing the degradation on the planet caused by human activity and her lifelong desire to work in marine biology.  During her scientific career, she felt she was still not doing enough to help the planet and she decided to learn more of indigenous wisdom from cultures she feels live most respectfully on the earth.  She is the Founder of a non-profit, Tierra Sagrada, The Sacred Earth Foundation, dedicated to the conservation of indigenous cultures and their wisdom.  She began this during the time of her research career and continues today after nearly 20 years.  She has hosted and learned from indigenous elders from around the globe and now offers sweat lodges and programs of initiations in her community in Colorado. For more information please visit