Niki Khoshzamir, CEO of Practice Pro, and David Morrow, start-up adviser for emerging industries, both transitioned from practicing lawyers into business roles within the last few years. During the recent Next Gen Leadership: Advancing Lawyers of Color Ask-a-Mentor session, the pair sat down with participants from the community of lawyers of color to share their stories of how they made the transition. In this podcast episode, Khoshzamir and Morrow discuss details of the actions they took before, during, and after they made switch to their business roles. They also highlight how they prepared mentally to deal with the lean years of going from making a good salary as a practicing lawyer to making barely enough money to pay their bills. They also share their strategies for how they paid back some or all of their student loans before they left their full-time jobs.