People from various walks of life have an affinity to nature. Why is that, and why is nature important to us? This episode is less of an inquiry and more of a ramble through this topic, with one of the most nature-loving, inspiring and interesting people I know. Steven Lowe is is a high school science teacher in the UK. But he started as a cardiovascular cell biology researcher, after earning his PhD in that subject. In between those two sub-careers he spent more than 10 years studying and working in conservation biology - mostly in South Africa - where we met doing our Masters degrees in that subject. 02:12: How Steve chose a successful career in cardiovascular cell biology, and left it for conservation11:11: The importance of biodiversity conservation relative to climate change action16:08: Moral and practical arguments for conservation18:03: Trade-offs, consequences and opportunities25:46: Political conviction about improving conservation28:39: Why are YouTube "freak animal clips" so popular?31:48: Young people’s interest in nature35:23: The influence of inspiring individuals 40:36: The influence of spending time in natureVisit www.case4conservation.com