Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. This week, we bring you a very special joint episode of Outrage + Optimism and The Way Out Is In. From the peace and tranquility of the International Plum Village Community of Engaged Buddhism, Christiana and Tom speak with Zen Buddhist monk Brother Pháp Hữu and journalist Jo Confino. Listeners of both podcasts are invited to join in on an intimate and deep conversation covering everything from the missing spiritual elements in the climate movement, moving beyond linear timelines into exponential transformation, and what happens when we all stop. So bring your tea to the table and let the radical collaboration begin.   NOTES AND RESOURCES   Listen and Subscribe to ‘The Way Out Is In’ Listen to Brother Phap Linh perform ‘Music for Difficult Times’   Plum Village App Twitter | YouTube | Instagram Thich Nhat Hanh Twitter | Foundation Plum Village Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube Brother Chân Pháp Hữu Instagram Jo Confino Instagram   LISTEN: ‘Bringing the Ultimate Dimension Down to Earth’ READ: ‘Zen and The Art of Saving the Planet’ by Thich Nhat Hanh To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.