* Note, this episode is (in part) a reflection on episodes 154-163. A series about the intersection of adult development and leadership: listening to those episodes will provide context for this discussion.David V. Day holds appointments as Professor of Psychology and Leadership, and as Academic Director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College. He is a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, Association for Psychological Science, International Association of Applied Psychology, and the Society for Industrial and Organizational Psychology. He has published more than 100 peer-reviewed journal articles, books, and book chapters, many pertaining to the core topics of leadership and leadership development. He received the Walter Ulmer Research Award from the Center for Creative Leadership in 2010 for outstanding, career-long contributions to applied leadership research.Dr. Jonathan Reams is driven by an insatiable curiosity about the essence of human nature and how to cultivate this essence in the service of leadership. He uses various outlets to achieve this. He currently has a position at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology, where he teaches and does research on leadership development, coaching, and counseling. He serves as Editor-in-Chief of Integral Review, A Transdisciplinary and Transcultural Journal for New Thought, Praxis and Research. He is also a co-founder of the Center for Transformative Leadership and the European Center for Leadership Practice. Jonathan’s Ph.D. is in Leadership Studies from Gonzaga University. Jonathan practices the cultivation of leadership through consulting and leadership development program design and delivery.A Couple Quotes"Much of this adult development work is about how people talk and think, or how they talk is supposed to reflect their thinking. But what about behaviors...how can we use virtual reality to put people into situations and see how they navigate that?""We're trying to capture reality in flight. Development is going on all the time, every day, and the stages are helpful to a point, but then they sort of get in the way of what's going on in someone's developmental trajectory."Resources/Authors Mentioned in This EpisodeTheo Dawson's workKurt Fischer's workResource: Foundations of Lectical Assessment (FOLA)Book: The Unfolding Now by A. H. Almaas Book: Creative Act by Rick RubinBook: Thought as a System by David BohmBook: Faith Hope and Carnage by Nick CaveAbout  Scott J. AllenWebsiteMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.About The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.