Timeline4:30 – How the sports supplements/nutrition category has evolved in academia and industry – Stout and Ziegenfuss. The scientific community wasn’t supportive. Industry leaders? EAS? Gatorade technically is a supplement but the powers that be didn’t classify it as such.9:25 – Once you work in the industry, you’ll never get back into academia – one of the big LIES pure academicians will tell you.14:07 – Tony Ricci’s experience with Pfizer; a funny story. Total cholesterol as a sole marker for CVD is total bullshit.20:27 – Collagen protein – good for what exactly? If it helps or has a neutral effect, try it!23:23 – Beta-alanine – why not just take carnosine? And how to avoid the pins and needles effect?27:38 – Dr. Z has an answer for eliminating or attenuating the paresthesia!28:42 – Dr. Z says that Roger Harris PhD says the carnosine is good for helping your hangover from excess drinking.29:27 – Anserine, Balenine – cousins to carnosine – (not beta-alanine as Dr. A said).31:51 – Beta-alanine and Creatine – thoughts on using it for weight class athletes (i.e., fighters).37:35 – Thoughts on HMB – why is there such an odd emotional response to HMB? It does have an application particularly if you are old, underfed, or training like a maniac.  It ain’t like DECA! 46:31 – Why not leucine rather than HMB?48:46 – There is a utility to BCAAs vis a vis attenuating DOMS51:00 – Cold water immersion – does it help?  Does it help reduce fat mass?56:05 – Supplement recommendations from Drs. Z and StoutAbout our guests:Jeffrey R. Stout, Ph.D., is a professor and founding director for the School of Kinesiology and Physical Therapy in the College of Health Professions and Sciences. He earned his Ph.D., Doctor of Philosophy, Exercise Physiology, University of Nebraska – Lincoln; Dr. Stout is one of the world’s leading researchers on the topic of creatine and other supplements and nutritional interventions for performance enhancement. Throughout his career, he has co-authored more than 300 peer-reviewed publications, 300 national and international presentations, eight books and 12 book chapters focusing on nutrition, exercise performance and body composition in youth and older populations.Dr. Tim Ziegenfuss is the Co-Founder and Chief Scientific Officer of the Center for Applied Health Sciences. He is a past President (2009-2011) and Fellow of the International Society of Sports Nutrition, and Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist. Dr. Ziegenfuss earned a Bachelor of Science from Lock Haven University, a Master of Science from Purdue University (Exercise Physiology), and a Doctorate from Kent State University (Exercise Physiology, cognates in Nutrition and Statistics). His website: Research Foundation - The Center For Applied Health Sciences (thecahs.com)  Dr. Ziegenfuss is one of the thought leaders in the field of sports nutrition.