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AIRDATE:  05/17/2023 WEDNESDAY
GUEST:  JOSEY SCOTT (FOUNDING MEMBER OF
SALIVA) JOSEY SCOTT’S SALIVA (2023)

0:00      SHOW INTRO-GUEST BACKGROUND-TOPICS TO BE DISCUSSED
6:44     JOSEY SCOTT JOINS THE SHOW
7:30      WE DISCUSS HOW BOTH
“SALIVA’S” WILL EXIST AMICABLY WHERE MOST BANDS FROM THE 80’S HAVE BEEN
LITIGIOUS
9:12       ‘WE’RE NOT 2 SALIVA CAMPS,
WE’RE ONE SALIVA CAMP”  “BOBBY HAS THE 2ND
HALF OF THE MATERIAL, I HAVE THE FIRST HALF OF THE MATERIAL”.  “MINES MORE OF A TRIBUTE, BROADWAY SHOW TYPE
OF THING, BOBBY WILL BE DOING HIS MATERIAL”“THERE’S NO INFIGHTING, NOTHING BUT LOVE AND RESPECT”

10:30    HE DISCUSSES HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH BOBBY AMARU SR
(BOBBY AMARU JR’S DAD) AND SUPPORT HE GOT FROM THE AMARU’S FROM THE LOSS OF HIS
OLDEST SON CODY.11:22     HE
EXPLAINS THE DELAY IN “SHADE VIOLENT” ALBUM AND TOUR

12:06    JOSEY DISCUSSES HOW THINGS
CHANGED GEARS WITH WAYNE SWINNY’S PASSING, AND COMMENDED THE ORGANIZATON BY
BOBBY AMARU OF THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR SWINNY.13:05    “CERTAINLY BOBBY HAS MY BLESSING ON GOING OUT THERE DOING HIS THING
WITH SALIVA AND I’M GONNA DO MINE, THERE’S NO BAD BLOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,
IT’S A GOOD THING”

13:27     WE DISCUSS HOW THE FORGING OF A FRIENDSHIP WITH
BOBBY AMARU SR ALLOWED BOTH CAMPS TO NAVIGATE THE LOSS OF WAYNE SWINNY
TOGETHER.“OUT OF DEATH, SPRINGS FORTH LIFE”

14:30    JOSEY CONTINUES TO WEIGH IN ON THE LOSS OF HIS
CHILD.  “I GOOGLED “LOSING A CHILD”
AND GOOGLE POPPED BACK “THE ULTIMATE TRAGEDY” “I WOULDN’T WISH THAT ON MY WORST
ENEMY”.
-NOTE THAT MONDAY MAY 22, 2023, WILL BE ONE
YEAR SINCE HIS SON’S PASSING

16:45    THROUGH THE
RELATIONSHIP WITH BOBBY AMARU SR, JOSEY AND BOBBY AMARU JR HAD ALREADY
DISCUSSED MUSICAL COLLABORATIONS.18:31     WE
DISCUSS THE FAILED REUNION OF JOSEY SCOTT AND SALIVA AS WELL AS THE BLUE RIDGE
FESTIVAL APPEARANCE, WHICH WOULD BE ONLY AND LAST APPEARANCE OF JOSEY SCOTT
WITH WAYNE SWINNY.
19:30    “A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED WAS MY FAULT, BECAUSE I HADN’T
BEEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN 10 YEARS”. 
“WHAT A DIFFERENCE 10 YEARS MAKES”! -JOSEY SCOTT ON THE FAILED
SALIVA REUNION

HE GOES ON TO SAY WITH COVID, HIS SON GETTING SICK AND AS THE “WORLD JUST
SHIFTED GEARS”, CHANGES IN THE INDUSTRY, THE REUNION “JUST IMPLODED AFTER
THAT”.21:08    HE
GOES ONTO REFLECT ON THE BLUE RIDGE FESTIVAL OPPORTUNITY THAT HAPPENED IN
SEPTEMBER OF 2022.  “I WAS IN A BETTER
POSITION TO SAY YES TO THAT OPPORTUNITY”.



21:30    “I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS GONNA BE THE LAST TIME I WOULD
EVER GET TO WALK ON STAGE WITH WAYNE SWINNY AND I’M JUST SO GLAD WE GOT TO PLAY
THAT GIG TOGETHER”

“THE UNIVERSE ABSOLUTELY KNOWS WHAT IT’S DOIN’”

WITH RESPECT TO THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT OF A REUNION/ TOUR: “MAYBE WASN’T
MEAN TO BE IN THAT FORM, IN THAT CONNOTATION” “IF THAT’S THE CASE, I’M GLAD IT
DIDN’T HAPPEN AND I’M GLAD WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE BLUE RIDGE”.22:55   WE
DISCUSS WHAT IT WAS LIKE JOINING THE BAND IN FRONT OF A REPORTED 60-100k PEOPLE
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER A DECADE WITH THE NEW SINGER ON THE SIDE OF THE
STAGE.“IT WAS ABSOLUTE MAGIC
MAN”

24:20   HE TALKS ABOUT BEING NERVOUS BEFORE GOING ON STAGE AND HIS WIFE WALKED
OVER AND SAID WHAT HE NEEDED TO HEAR TO GET ON STAGE:  SHE SAID, “YOU BELONG HERE”
“AFTER SHE SAID THAT, IT JUST CENTERED ME”.

                  “I’M ACTUALLY
GONNA GET A TATTOO THAT SAYS “YOU BELONG HERE”

26:25   WE DISCUSSED ODD JOBS
THAT JOSEY DID WHILE ON HIATUS AFTER LEAVING SALIVA.HE TALKS ABOUT DOING DRUG
COUNSELING FOR THE SHERIFF’S DEPT FOR 3 YEARS IN HIS HOMETOWN (BEFORE MOVING TO
TULSA) AFTER GETTING CLEAN OFF OF PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS.

IN 2016, HE TOOK “PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST” CLASSES IN TULSA TO HELP
VETERANS, HOMELESS AND OTHERS THAT DIDN’T HAVE RESOURCES TO FIND DRUG AND
ALCOHOL REHAB.

“IT WAS ALMOST AS GOOD A FOOD FOR THE SOUL AS MUSIC IS”

30:00   WE TALK ABOUT JOSEY JOINING
POISON ON STAGE LAST SUMMER IN TULSA, OK AT THE BOK CENTER.“ME AND