THIS THAT AND
THE OTHER RADIO SHOW
GUEST LES WARNER 11/30/2022
06:31
WE DISCUSS THE SUCCESS OF THE CULT’S “ELECTRIC” AND THE RICK RUBEN PROCESS OF
RECORDING AS TO COMPARED OF THE ORGINAL “PEACE SESSIONS” WITH PRODUCER STEVE
BROWN (WHO HAD PRODUCED THE CULT’S “LOVE” ALBUM).

ESSENTIALLY RUBIN GOT RID OF VERB AND OTHER EFFECTS TO
DELIVER A RAW LIVE BAND RECORDING WITH MINIMAL PRODUCTION.

08:00
WE DISCUSS THE IDENTITY OF THE CULT AND WHAT GENRE THEY STARTED OFF IN AND
WHERE THEY WENT WITH DIFFERENT PRODUCERS SUCH AS RICK RUBIN AND BOB ROCK.

09:37
LES GOES BACK TO THE RECORDING OF THE “PEACE SESSIONS” WITH STEVE BROWN AND
HOW HE WAS REPLACED WITH RICK RUBIN AND MORE DETAILS ON HOW THEY CHANGED THE
SONGS, RECORDING PROCESS AND MORE.  HE
WEIGHS IN ON THE NOTABLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL SESSIONS VS. WHAT
WOULD BECOME “ELECTRIC”.  “THE
PRESSURE WAS ON, IF I MESSED UP A DRUM FILL, IT WAS ON THE RECORD”!

12:00
WE DICUSS THE DIFFERENCES OF DOING A RAW LIVE ALBUM IN THE MID 80’S TO
MODERN DAY TECHNOLOGY OF PRO TOOLS ETC.
LES MENTIONS A “DROP IN” (OVERDUB”) THAT ULTIMATELY MADE THE ALBUM WITHOUT RUBIN’S
KNOWLEDGE.

14:00
LES DISCUSSES DOING A SONG FOR HOOKERS N BLOW (ALEX GROSSI – QUIET RIOT
& DIZZY REED – GUNS N ROSES) AND HOW THE DRUMS WERE QUANTIZED TOO MUCH
AND RUINED THE FEEL OF THE SONG. (THE ELTON JOHN COVER OF SATURDAY NIGHTS
ALRIGHT FOR FIGHTIN’)

15:47
WE DISCUSS PROS AND CONS OF RECORDING TO A CLICK TRACK AND REFERENCE MANY
ALBUMS AND DRUMMERS THAT MIGHT NOT WORK IF RECORDED TO CLICK AND A GRID.  LES MENTIONS THAT DRUMMERS CAN PLAY “AROUND A
CLICK” VS. “TO THE CLICK”.  “YOU CAN
STILL SWING TO A CLICK”.

18:33
WE GO BACK TO RE-RECORDING THE PEACE SESSIONS (WHICH WOULD BE “ELECTRIC”)
AND DISCUSS HOW RICK RUBIN RE-WROTE THE SONGS ESSENTIALLY IN ADDITION TO THE
VAST PRODUCTION CHANGES.  LES DISCUSS
ASPECTS OF THE ALBUM THAT HE FELT DIDN’T WORK.

21:19
LES DISCUSSES HOW HE BEAT “160 DRUMMERS” FOR THE CULT AUDITION IN LATE
1985. IT WAS A “DEFIANT” MOMENT WHERE HE CHANGED A SIGNATURE FILL IN “SHE
SELLS SANCTUARY”.
WE DISCUSS HIS PRIOR WORK (TO THE CULT) WITH JULIAN LENNON, RANDY CALIFORNIA OF
SPIRIT, LOCAL BANDS IN THE UK, PAUL KILMISTER (LEMMY’S ON), ETC.

HE ALSO DISCUSSES A FAILED AUDITION FOR AC/DC TO A LED ZEPPELIN TRACK (BLACK
DOG), BUT NEVER PERFORMED WITH THE BAND. 
HE MADE THE TOP 5.



THIS THAT AND THE OTHER
RADIO SHOW
GUEST LES WARNER 11/30/2022
26:41
WE TALK FIRST TOURS WITH THE CULT, AS HE TOURED ON THE “LOVE” ALBUM, TO THEN
WORK ON THE “ELECTRIC” ALBUM WITH STEVE BROWN.

DURING THE FIRST YEAR OF TOURING, A YOUNG GUNS N ROSES WOULD
BE AN OPENER, AS WELL AS ZODIAC MINDWARP IN ADDITION TO OPENING FOR DAVID BOWIE.

28:36
THE INTERVIEWER “TPF” ASKS LES ABOUT HIS DYNAMIC WITH “THE CULT” AND WHAT HIS
SALARY WOULD BE AND IF HE WAS A “BAND MEMBER” OR HIRED GUN.  WARNER ANSWERS “UNFORTUNATELY, THERE’S
AN AWFUL WORD ON THIS PLANET, AND IT’S CALLED “GREED”, AND THAT’S WHY I’M NOT
LIVING IN A MANSION” AND GOES ON TO SAY HE’S HAPPY DOING WHAT HE DOES; “I’M
BLESSED”.

“THEY TREATED ME LIKE A MEMBER OF THE BAND, BUT WHEN
WE PARTED WAYS, I WAS JUST A HIRED GUN”

HE DISCLOSES HE WAS ON A “WAGE” WITH SOME BONUSES, BUT NEVER
GOT MERCHANDISING, PUBLISHING ETC, “IT WASN’T A VERY FAIR SITUATION”.
31:31
LES DISCUSSES HIS CURRENT PROJECTS AND RECENT FALL 2022 TOURS IN ADDITION
TO EARLY 2023 TOUR PLANS.  LES IS PLAYING
BASS FOR “THE DEAD BOYS” (A 70’S PUNK BAND), FILLING IN FOR BLAS ELIAS
(SLAUGHTER/TSO) AT “RAIDING THE ROCK VAULT”.

32:55
LES IS ASKED EXACTLY WHY HE LEFT “THE CULT” DURING THE START OF THEIR
HEY DAY AND HESITATES TO ANSWER.  HE
ESSENTIALLY HINTS TO WANTING TO BEING “TAKEN CARE OF” AND “THEY DECIDED TO
NOT DEAL WITH IT”.  IT WAS EITHER “TAKE
CARE OF ME AND BE FAIR OR GET RID OF ME”. 
“AGAIN, IT’S THAT AWFUL WORD (GREED)”.  “IT WAS A PRETTY UNFAIR SITUATION”.

34:00
LES DISCUSSES HIS POST “CULT” BAND “HELLFIRE CLUB” WITH PAUL
RAVEN (KILLING JOKE) & BRIAN ROBERTSON (THIN LIZZY) AND AFTER 1 ALBUM
AND SUBSEQUENT VIDEOS AND