In this episode, we begin by discussing the counselling issues and interventions raised in case 2: reflecting on the past. We’ll then present this week’s case: a couple referred to discuss genetic testing for cardiomyopathy. References mentioned in our discussion: Schwartz, M, et al. Randomized noninferiority trial of telephone versus in-person genetic counseling for hereditary breast and ovarian cancer. Journal of Clinical Oncology 2014 32:7, 618-626 Cohen, S, Huziak, R, Gustafson, S and Grubs, R. Analysis of advantages, limitations, and barriers of genetic counseling service delivery models. J Genet Counsel (2016) 25: 1010.  Edwards JC, Brannan JR, Burgess L et al. Case presentation format and clinical reasoning: a strategy for teaching medical students. Medical Teacher 1987;9:285–292. Goldberg C. A practical guide to clinical medicine: overview and general information about oral presentation. 2009. University of California, San Diego. Available from: https://meded.ecsd.edu/clinicalmed.oral.htm  Join the discussion on social media with #GCchatpodcast  On our website, you will find suggestions for support, our privacy statement and disclaimer, and more information about topics referenced in our discussion.  http://www.gcchatpodcast.libsyn.com