Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by John Young. Like many security experts, John started out on the wrong side of the law by manipulating the AT&T phone system as a teenage phone phreak in New York City before he was scared straight by the FBI. His career started four decades ago in 1982, and by 1987 Young became the network director at McDonnell Douglas's $41.8 billion C-17 program. He eventually retired from IBM after a 30-year career in the corporate cyberwar trenches to launch his own company, CyberDef.   Regarded as one of America's top corporate cybersecurity experts and thought leaders, Young's published dozens of articles, appeared on countless podcasts, and is designing a video course for people based on his book so that they can thrive in cybersecurity.   [May 15, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:53 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                04:51 - John Young Intro 06:41 - Scared Straight 15:38 - Imposter Syndrome 16:53 - Don't Quit Your Day Job! 22:54 - Integration is Key 28:05 - The Effect of AI on Cyber Security 32:32 - Tips to Stay Ahead 38:17 - Policies, Processes and Procedures 38:37 - Book Recommendations: -          Don't Hack! – John Young 43:22 - Find John Young Online -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/john-young-4aa083151/ -          Website: https://cyberdef.tv 43:55 - Learn to Thrive 46:42 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org