In this episode of Climate Discourse, Kate speaks with CCLR Associate Editor Lisa Benjamin. Lisa is an Associate Professor at Lewis & Clark Law School in Portland Oregon and also a member of the UNFCCC Compliance Committee’s Facilitative Branch and the Race to Zero Expert Peer Review Group. Kate and Lisa speak about the role of non-state actors in reaching climate and temperature goals, climate risk exposure and corporate responsibility, the importance of equity in energy and climate transitions and what we can learn from our canine friends.