Gwen Smith and Michael Ogletree get right into the thorny parts of how government and local communities work and don't work with environmental data, in their full conversation with Angela.In Data Dialogues, we highlight two people working with environmental data and then bring them in conversation with each other. Listen to this conversation on its own or pair it with Gwen Smith's conversation in Episode 7 and Michael Ogletree's conversation in Episode 8.  You can access a transcript of this episode and Show Notes on our website and join in the conversation on Twitter @OpenEnviroData and Instagram @OpenEnviroData! Gwen Smith (she/her) is a community leader in the historically Black community of Collier Heights, Atlanta and the founder of Community Health Aligning Revitalization Resilience & Sustainability (CHARRS). Gwen uses community-driven water quality and radon science, monitoring, and awareness to connect people to their environment and works with local and federal governments in their efforts to put communities first.Michael Ogletree (he/him) is the former Technical Air Services Program Manager in the City & County of Denver’s Department of Public Health & Environment. He is the city lead on Love My Air Denver, one of the 2018 Bloomberg Mayors Challenge winning ideas. Love My Air involves deployment of low-cost air sensors at public schools along with real time data dashboards, education, and programming, to reduce the long-term health and economic impacts from exposure to poor air quality.Angela Eaton (she/her) is the Director of Data Inclusion at Open Environmental Data  and host of Data Dialogues.