This is part 2 of the South Africa Corporate Governance Episodes. In this episode, Lyndsey talks with Clint Bartlett, professional impact investment consultant and strategy advisor from South Africa. Clint has worked across Sub-Saharan Africa, the US, the UK and Europe on projects related to impact strategy and sustainable finance. Clint reviews the impact of BEE to South Africa corporate governance development, the main function of corporate governance in South Africa, how the stewardship has worked for impact investment in the past decades, and impact of South Africa social issues to the effectiveness of stewardship. He also shares his concerns about the country current situation. At the end, based on current situation in South Africa, Clint suggests investors who have asset in South Africa re-evaluate investment strategy, return expectation, and make rational decision before making next strategic move. Conversation Highlights (with timestamps) Clint’s understanding of corporate governance in general (1:30) Why we often saw bad governance, but not good governance in non-South African society (4:00) The turning point of willingness to see good governance (5:30) What corporate governance mean for organizations in South Africa with BEE implementation (6:00) Challenges of putting BEE in the center of corporate governance (9:10) South African education system situation due to implementation of corporate governance issue (10:20) How the stewardship in South Africa play its roles in impact investment (13:20) - Impact investing & stewardship issues (15:20) Impact investing growing trend (17:55) What investors need to consider about investment in South Africa (18:50) Guest Contact Information Clint Bartlett Email: Clint.bartlett@aya.yale.edu Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clintdbartlett/ Publication: https://nextbillion.net/risk-perception-funding-gap/