This episode features a dog training conversation with my shadow student Sara White. I first met Sara during a dog training workshop we attended together. Later, she contacted me about my shadow program, and here we are. Sara opted for an extended shadow experience and, as a result, got to see and discuss a lot! We also worked with her own two dogs and attended another workshop in the middle of it.

In this podcast, we discuss the importance of understanding the seeking system. The conversation also touches on workshops—we attended one together—and learning principles. Of course, we discussed Sara's dogs, Exodus and Harley, and socialization and obedience training. The conversation went far and wide. Enjoy!

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