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The bot Cicero can collaborate, scheme and build trust with humans. What does this mean for the next frontier of AI? With Noam Brown, Research Scientist at Meta

The bot Cicero can collaborate, scheme and build trust with humans. What does this mean for the next frontier of AI? With Noam Brown, Research Scienti…

FromNo Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups


The bot Cicero can collaborate, scheme and build trust with humans. What does this mean for the next frontier of AI? With Noam Brown, Research Scienti…

FromNo Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups

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Length:
59 minutes
Released:
Feb 2, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

AGI can beat top players in chess, poker, and, now, Diplomacy. In November 2022, a bot named Cicero demonstrated mastery in this game, which requires natural language negotiation and cooperation with humans. In short, Cicero can lie, scheme, build trust, pass as human, and ally with humans. So what does that mean for the future of AGI?
This week’s guest is research scientist Noam Brown. He co-created Cicero on the Meta Fundamental AI Research Team, and is considered one of the smartest engineers and researchers working in AI today.
Co-hosts Sarah Guo and Elad Gil talk to Noam about why all research should be high risk, high reward, the timeline until we have AGI agents negotiating with humans, why scaling isn’t the only path to breakthroughs in AI, and if the Turing Test is still relevant.
Show Links:

More about Noam Brown


Read the research article about Cicero (diplomacy) published in Science. 


Read the research article about Liberatus  (heads-up poker) published in Science. 


Read the research article about Pluribus (multiplayer poker) published in Science. 


Watch the AlphaGo Documentary.

Read “How Smart Are the Robots Getting?” by New York Times reporter Cade Metz 


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Show Notes: 
[01:43] - What sparked Noam’s interest in researching AI that could defeat games
[6:00] - How the AlexaNET and AlphaGo changed the landscape of AI research
[8:09] - Why Noam chose Diplomacy as the next game to work on after poker
[9:51] - What Diplomacy is and why the game was so challenging for an AI bot
[14:50] - Algorithmic breakthroughs and significance of AI bots that win in No-Limit Texas Hold'em poker
[23:29] - The Nash Equilibrium and optimal play in poker
[24:53] - How Cicero interacted with humans 
[27:58] - The relevance and usefulness of the Turing Test
[31:05] - The data set used to train Cicero
[31:54] - Bottlenecks to AI researchers and challenges with scaling
[40:10] - The next frontier in researching games for AI
[42:55] - Domains that humans will still dominate and applications for AI bots in the real world
[48:13] - Reasoning challenges with AI
Released:
Feb 2, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode

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At this moment of inflection in technology, co-hosts Elad Gil and Sarah Guo talk to the world's leading AI engineers, researchers and founders about the biggest questions: How far away is AGI? What markets are at risk for disruption? How will commerce, culture, and society change? What’s happening in state-of-the-art in research? “No Priors” is your guide to the AI revolution. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com. Sarah Guo is a startup investor and the founder of Conviction, an investment firm purpose-built to serve intelligent software, or "Software 3.0" companies. She spent nearly a decade incubating and investing at venture firm Greylock Partners. Elad Gil is a serial entrepreneur and a startup investor. He was co-founder of Color Health, Mixer Labs (which was acquired by Twitter). He has invested in over 40 companies now worth $1B or more each, and is also author of the High Growth Handbook.