Fundamental change can take root rapidly when new ways of working are sown in an organization that’s already prepared the ground. Payam Djavdan drove ING Bank’s legendary agile transformation and shares the story behind the story. Insights will be reaped even by those who think they already know the tale of ING.Guest: Payam Djavdan, Partner and Associate Director, BCG AmsterdamThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy