Indra Adnan is a psychosocial therapist, founder of The Alternative Global and author of The Politics of Waking up: Power and possibility in the fractal age.  She has been a journalist, a director of a political think tank and a community organiser. She is always an activist. Her passion is the creation of methods of connection that allow everyone to be fully themselves, to find the place from which meaning and purpose arise and to act from there.  She gave up her job at the think tank on the day the British MP Jo Cox was murdered in the run up to the 2016 Brexit Referendum, and has spent the time since then considering and creating ways to bring about the change we need to see if we're going to address the climate, ecological and cultural chaos of our time. In this conversation, we delve deep into the ways we might do things differently - how does a different kind of politics and governance work? How does it feel? What are the logistics and how might we bring it about?  On the way, we consider the creation of an alternative media system - one that brings people together instead of splitting them apart - and the ways that local citizens action networks (CANs) can join together to create a movement of movements with unstoppable momentum.  Indra's Book: https://systems-souls-society.com/insight/perspectiva-press/the-politics-of-waking-up-power-and-possibility-in-the-fractal-age/The Alternative Global: https://www.thealternative.org.ukSimon Anholt: The Good Country: https://www.goodcountry.org/simon-anholtDavid Wood: London Futurists: https://londonfuturists.com/Trust The People: https://www.trustthepeople.earthMarge Piercy: The Low Road: https://thechangeagency.org/testimonials/marge-piercy/Thrutopia: https://thrutopia.life