It is an understatement to say that Deb Liu’s rise to CEO of Ancestry.com is “unique.” From growing up as a child of Chinese immigrants in South Carolina (where she was often told to “Go back to where she came from”), to navigating gender imbalance in the tech industry, to an ongoing battle with imposter syndrome, Deb has met challenges with wisdom, grace, and a gentle perseverance. In this conversation with Paula Faris, you can hear Deb share her personal reactions to the challenges (and blessings) of her career, and specific tips, tools, and structures that she uses to arrange her life for continued growth.