In this episode Rachel & Katie discuss all things listening to babies during labour. Rachel walks us through:The Herstory of listening to the baby’s heart rate during labour. The interesting and scary history of the inventer of the pinard trumpet. Rachel’s “heart beat” impression! Rachel’s ‘under water’ pinard story! We discuss pinards and doppler listening devices. #bringbackthepinnard  What is the evidence for fetal heart rate monitoring in labour. The current guidelines on intermittent auscultation. And the one piece of evidence a lot of guidelines are based off. The normal and expected changes in a full term healthy baby’s heart rate during labour.Rachel gives tips on how to navigate working in the hospital environment with consented or declined auscultations. Katie looks for sponsorship from Kendall mint cake, you have to listen to know what we’re on about with this one! And last but by no means least, CTG monitoring and what the research says about outcomes for women and infants.LINKS: Rachel's blog post  Support the show Produced and edited by Katie James - Support the show via our Patreon page or at BuyMeACoffee Music Joseph McDade Like this podcast? Then head over to leave us a review here Want more from Katie and Rachel? Katie's website with links to courses and moreRachel's website with links to courses, blogs, books and the collective