In this episode of IASA Global's podcast series, The Argument, IASA CEO, Paul Preiss has an unscripted, candid conversation with two leaders in architecture transformation and leadership: Whynde Kuehn and Eva Kammerfors. This discussion focuses on how to create a true business-impacting architecture practice, how to become a transformational chief architect, and how to help organizations manage change in a dynamic business environment. Participants discuss the qualities of bringing architects together, shared interactions between business and solution architects, and how to grow a practice that delivers on the promise of digital. Whynde Kuehn is the Founder and Managing Director of S2E Transformation, helping organizations bridge the gap between strategy and execution. Whynde has extensive experience in enterprise transformation and planning and is a passionate advocate for using business architecture to enable effective strategy execution and digital transformation. Eva Kammerfors is an experienced enterprise and business architecture practitioner specializing in architecture management and governance, change leadership, and business and IT transformation. Eva is a Senior Advisor and owner of network organization Teama AB, where she acts as a mentor and leader in companies and organizations using architecture as a tool for digital transformation. Eva is an engaged speaker in the chief architect community, trainer in business and IT architecture and certifies Chief Architects at the Computer Society.