Vernon Bogdanor is one of Britain’s foremost constitutional experts, which for a country that lacks a written constitution, means not that he lacks a working subject. In his latest book Britain and Europe in a Troubled World (2020), Mr. Bogdanor traces the historical undercurrents behind the UK’s troubled, always ambivalent ties with the European continent. Brexit in fact has thrust into broad daylight a relationship far more complicated than was suggested just by the issues at stake in the referendum of 2016. In this episode, Mr. Bogdanor helps us unpack what these diverging visions about the future of Europe were all about. fIj0BYr1RhkIQGHR9DsJ Rate and review Uncommon Decency on Apple Podcasts, and send us your comments or questions at @UnDecencyPod or uncommondecencypod@gmail.com.