Why does she engage in the work? For Dr. Jackie Bruce, it's crystal clear - and it's inspiring. "For me, the 'Why' is that we are creating a more equitable, more just, more liberated community. That's the point...not just to improve the bottom line...but so that every single person can be the person they were meant to be. That's the point." Her clarity struck me in a powerful way. Dr. Jackie Bruce is an Associate Professor, Director of Graduate Programs  Agricultural & Extension Education and Undergraduate Coordinator, Leadership in Ag & Life Sciences Minor at North Carolina State University. She resides in the department of Agricultural & Human Sciences and teaches courses in leadership development & qualitative research methods, and advises undergraduate and graduate students. She serves as the Co-Director of the Oaks Leadership Scholars Program, is an Equal Opportunity Institute Graduate Scholar, and an LGBT Center Advocate. She enjoys great discussions and direct action related to creating more inclusive communities. Jackie is the Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Leadership Education and is honored to work with a vibrant community of leadership scholars and practitioners.Learn More About Jackie's WorkJournal of Leadership EducationDr. Bruce at Google ScholarQuotes From This Episode"The moment when we acknowledge that anybody can be a leader is huge.""As the conversations become more complex, as the world becomes closer, as the problems become more nuanced...the old stuff maybe doesn't fit anymore.""When I think about why we do this...why do I go into the classroom every day to educate young people on leadership? For me, the 'Why' is so that we are creating a more equitable, more just, more liberated community. That's the point...not just to improve the bottom line...but so that every single person can be the person they were meant to be. That's the point.""My K-12, educator friends use the phrase 'you got to Maslow before you can Bloom." It's the idea that we have to have those basic needs met. Kids have to be fed, sheltered, and clothed. They have to feel like they belong. They have to feel secure. And then we can start teaching them reading, writing, and arithmetic."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeIbram X. Kendi  - How To Be An Anti-Racist Podcast: Pod Save AmericaPodcast: Coffee Break ItalianWebsite: Crooked MediaAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals with a keen interest in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Today, ILA is the largest worldwide community committed to leadership scholarship, development, and practice. Connect with Your Host, Scott AllenScott's other Podcast - The Captovation PodcastLinkedInWebsite