Daren is joined by Carolina Hurricanes coach Rod Brind'Amour. Rod is the winner of the 2020-21 Jack Adams Award as the NHL's coach of the year. He spends a half hour chatting with Daren about why winning the award is meaningful to him, how his dad impacted his hockey career, the many mentors he had as a player, his relationship with Tom Dundon and Don Waddell, why watching Sebastian Aho's growth as a player has been so satisfying and how he found his coaching style through the years. He explains why he doesn't love iPads on the bench, discusses why he uses his experience as a player in Carolina to motivate players, and shares an awesome story about how playing defense as a young player may have been the best thing that ever happened to him in his hockey career. It's a fascinating conversation and one that will leave you with an appreciation for Rod as a coach and as a person.