Chris and Jonathan interview Jen Novakovich, a science communicator and cosmetic chemist, on everything you’ve ever wanted to know about the safety and efficacy of cosmetics and over-the-counter beauty products… and the drivel you need to be warned against.   2:03 Jen’s career path 4:20 Reversing the signs of aging 7:21 How much should you pay for a moisturizer? 9:37 The regulation of therapeutic claims 13:02 Topical vitamin C or niacinamide? 15:24 Hyaluronic acid or glycerin 16:55 Snail mucin 18:26 Coenzyme Q10 19:32 Tea extract 20:30 Collagen 21:09 Sunscreen and its detractors 25:15 It’s the dose that makes the poison 27:00 How sensitization can lead to skin allergy 31:28 Exfoliants 35:56 The issues with the clean beauty movement 38:00 Animal testing 42:10 When should you throw out makeup? 45:21 Lipsticks and sunscreen 46:48 Can lip balm cause a dependence? 51:20 The new hand sanitizers 53:26 Toxic sanitizers recalled     * Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl.   To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.   Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called “Digressions”! Check it out!     Links: 1) Jen Novakovich’s Instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/theecowell/ 2) Jen Novakovich’s podcast: https://www.theecowell.com/ 3) Hand sanitizers recalled by Health Canada: https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2020/73385a-eng.php#affected-touches