Two transgender women share observations from their 20+ years of experience; discuss how transitioning, and the science of it, changed over the decades; and offer their views on what they believe are the most important things for society to know about it.

Hosted by Gabe Howard (www.gabehoward.com) and Vincent M. Wales (www.vincentmwales.com). Previous episodes can be found at psychcentral.com/show or on your favorite podcast player.