Many New Zealander over a certain age probably remember an iconic student bar called The Fat Ladies Arms.  That was the brain child of Leo Molly in the early 1990s in Palmerston North.  That is when we became friends. 
Since then Leo has ridden the extreme highs and lows of hospitality with resturants and bars including Euro, Cowboys, Headquarters and Cardiac (Which sent him bankrupt).
At the time of releasing this, Leo has just announced that he is pulling out of the race to be the next Mayor of Auckland (This chat was recorded earlier in the year and we talk about pretty much everything EXCEPT for politics).
This was a fun conversation- if you've never heard of Leo you'll get to learn about the life of one of New Zealands great characters.  If you have a pre concevied idea of who Leo is, this may change your opinion (or not LOL).
Dom