Edward Swiatek is a senior application engineer with the Environmental Research Market Group at Campbell Scientific, Inc.Links to learn more about Ed Swiatek: Ed's LinkedInSubscribe: https://www.metergroup.com/we-measure-the-world/Follow us: https://twitter.com/meter_envhttps://www.linkedin.com/showcase/meterenvironment/DisclaimerThe views and opinions expressed in the podcast and on this posting are those of the individual speakers or authors and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions held by METER.TRANSCRIPT:BRAD NEWBOLD 0:01 Hello everybody and welcome to we measure the world, a podcast produced by scientists for scientists.GAYLON CAMPBELL 0:07 So I just got a drill and was ready to drill a hole. And he walked into the lab right then he saw what he was doing and he said you probably better measure that and make sure that you don't hit one of the Freon tubes. And I said, "Yeah, yeah", I mean, what would be the probability of hitting the Freon tubes, the coils were that far apart! And I thought, "Oh I can see well enough to know where that bed is gonna go." And so I went ahead and drilled through the thing, and I hit dead on into one of the Freon tubes and all the refrigerant came shooting out of the thing. That was the hardest thing that I ever did in my life to walk into his office and tell him that I drilled a hole in the Freon tube.BRAD NEWBOLD 0:58 That's just a small taste of what we have in store for you today. We Measure The World explores interesting environmental research trends, solutions to research issues, and tools to better understand the entire soil plant atmosphere continuum. Stay current on applied environmental research, measurement methods and more. Thanks for joining us. Today's guests are Ed Swiatek tech micro meteorologist and Application Engineer at Campbell Scientific, and Dr. Gaylon Campbell, founder and soil physicist at meter group. Ed and Gaylon, thanks for joining us today. We really do appreciate you being here with us. Today we wanted to talk to you about your association with some of the founders and pioneers of environmental biophysics and environmental measurement, starting with Dr. Sterling Taylor, who was a researcher at Utah State University in the 1950s and 60s. And I know that you worked with him, Gaylon. And so can you just give us a brief introduction into who he was, and why he is considered one of the founders of environmental biophysics.GAYLON CAMPBELL 2:02 Sterling was part of that. I guess you could say cohort that we call the greatest generation, the the ones who grew up during the Depression, fought in the Second World War and went on after that and changed the world. And there were a number of amazing soil physicists that that I was acquainted with in group and Sterling was one of those. He grew up on a farm during the Depression, he got his bachelor's degree at Utah State University, went through ROTC and was commissioned officer in the army, served throughout through World War Two, got his PhD at Cornell and then was hired back at Utah State as their soil physicist. What made him one of the founders of environmental biophysics; when he was doing his work, environmental physics or environmental biophysics weren't really around. Those weren't things that were talking about. But they did talk about the soil plant atmosphere continuum. Nowadays, when you go into a field, you tried to narrow down as much as you can, so that you can make a splash. But those scientists didn't, they brought him down. Then they said, We need to look at the soil plant atmospheric continuum, all at once. And so they worked on plant physiology and micro meteorology and soil physics and all of the areas that that fit together for that, and became pioneers in in all of those areas, that that eventually did become what we call environmental physics now,BRAD NEWBOLD 3:53 So Gaylon, what was your association with Sterling Taylor? How did he influence your life and your work