Why does science in animal care matter? My bestie Barbara Heidenreich and I sit down - this time in person - for a conversation about what it actually means to be scientific in animal care and behavior. And why that's important. We talk about natural behavior, species differences, the constructional approach, and so much more. Resources for the Avian Behavior Lab (it's growing, people! We have big things on the horizon!) can be found on the link. You can check out Barbara's Animal Training Fundamentals Program, of which I am a proud member and affiliate, also here.