It was great to connect with Charles again since the last time we talked was in my role as Blues Coach and having one last chat with him before he decided to back himself and go overseas to Wasps and Ulster in Europe.He shares about the decision-making process he went through.  The difficulties in leaving his comfort zone and support structures of family and the battle within, whether he stays in NZ and strives for the dream of playing at a World Cup or takes the challenge up of earning money he never thought would be possible at his age and stage of his career.  He backed himself and signed to go but missed out on that dream of playing at the World Cup.He uses that to drive him to become one of the marquee players of Europe with Wasps, Ulster, and now Bristol and also being one of the highest-paid players in the world.  He also has the opportunity to achieve that childhood dream of playing at a World Cup with Tonga after the recent change in eligibility rules by World Rugby.He also talks about his thoughts about life after sport and how he’s got into NFT’s and the property market.An enjoyable episode that we get to hear about his journey which was not the normal pathway that we’re used to seeing but he’s made the most of it through his determined mindset, a chip on his shoulder, and skills as his currency.Make sure to listen in. Viktual+ Here to rebalance busy lives. We’re passionate to share pure Māori and Pasifika ingredients for wellbeing and lifestyle support