In this episode Baz and Paul discuss the implications of using language from the criminal justice system (i.e. “lockdown”) to describe conditions during the pandemic, the public health crisis occurring within the American prison system, and what it would look like to move toward a restorative justice model. Dr. Baz Dreisinger is a writer, producer, agitator and activist. She is the author of Incarceration Nations: A Journey to Justice in Prisons Around the World; Executive Director of the Incarceration Nations Network; Professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice; and Founder of the Prison-to-College Pipeline.Credits:Paul Holdengraber - Co-Creator, Host, OLA DirectorAnthony Audi - Co-Creator, Researcher, OLA DirectorAlejandro Cohen - Co-Creator, Producer, ComposerChristian Pitt - Production Coordinator Erin Cooney - Copy, ProductionDublab Team