It’s a first here on Cleaning Up, our very own debate special. Today we will be joined by Ben Goldsmith and Gareth Wyn-Jones to discuss farming and agricultural policy. Please welcome them both, and wish them both luck!  Bio – Ben Goldsmith  Ben Goldsmith is the chief executive officer of Menhaden Capital, an investment trust focusing on efficient use of energy and resources. He is also a Trustee of The Children’s Investment Fund Foundation and Chair of the UK Conservative Environment Network’s Board. Moreover, he is involved in the UK Government’s Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) as a non-executive director.  Bio – Gareth Wyn Jones  Gareth Wyn Jones is a sheep farmer from Tyn Llwyfan in North Wales. His farm has been with his family for over 370 years. Known as the ‘tweeting farmer’, Gareth uses media (both social and traditional) as an educational tool to show the public the life of a farmer. He has appeared on the BBC numerous times including on Countryfile as well as The Hill Farm, Farmer and the Food Chain, and Milkman.  Links - Ben GoldsmithTime to rewild the Highlands - Ben Goldsmith - Reform Scotland (March 2021)https://reformscotland.com/2021/03/time-to-rewild-the-highlands-ben-goldsmith/Leaving the EU's destructive Common Agricultural Policy enables an unprecedented win for nature in post-Brexit Britain (December, 2020)https://reaction.life/leaving-the-eu-cap-is-an-unprecedented-win-for-nature-in-post-brexit-britain/  Ben Goldsmith comes clean: lies, rewilding and the death of daughter Iris | Magazine | The Times (October 2020)https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ben-goldsmith-comes-clean-lies-rewilding-and-the-death-of-daughter-iris-97hcpz7l7Embrace wilder farming to restore nature on a grand scale (June 2020)https://reaction.life/embrace-wilder-farming-and-regenerate-britains-environment/  'It may feel like Armageddon, but there are environmental silver linings': Ben Goldsmith on Covid-19 (April 2020)https://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/wellness/may-feel-like-armageddon-environmental-silver-linings-ben-goldsmith/  Interview: Ben Goldsmith on rewilding, wild swimming and ‘hustling on behalf of nature’  https://www.endsreport.com/article/1695406/interview-ben-goldsmith-rewilding-wild-swimming-hustling-behalf-nature  Links – Gareth Wyn JonesThe Family Farm – BBChttps://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/1rbcMX2vXKkvqZQR21tpLVr/gareth-wyn-jones  The Hill Farm Episode 1  https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL3pl6F0\_t8dERa506qTGA8y3kj3TGO9E1&v=\_njeqJinkvY&feature=youtu.beFarmer and The Food Chainhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3pl6F0\_t8dHFtYtaznR2YDNZdY7qRWKqThe Hill Farmer – a book by Gareth Wyn Joneshttps://www.abebooks.co.uk/9781784610067/Hill-Farmer-Gareth-Wyn-Jones-1784610062/plp