Garrard Conley is a conversion therapy survivor and author of the New York Times best-selling memoir "Boy erased", now a major motion picture. Garrard talks about the so-called "straight savior" and his opinion about conversion therapy leaders coming out. He shares his rituals for writing and how he uses his religious upbringing to fuel his stories. Tune in to hear us talk about the challenges of finding the greys, especially in today’s polarized society. You can find resources for survivors of conversation therapy below: The Trevor Project https://www.thetrevorproject.org   The National Center for Lesbian Rights   http://www.nclrights.org/bornperfect-the-facts-about-conversion-therapy/   Born Perfect www.bornperfect.org    Southern Poverty Law Center https://www.splcenter.org  Unerased: A podcast on the History of Conversion Therapy in America.   Garrard Conley      Sink your teeth into ...   www.theforbiddenapplepodcast.com @theforbiddenapplepodcast