Our special guest this week is Top International and RFU Referee Luke Pearce.  Luke takes us through his refereeing journey from when he started in Devon aged 16, promoted to the National Panel by the age of 21 and a Premiership referee at the age of 24.   We chat about some of the challenges of refereeing during Covid times and look back at the times he has refereed London Welsh in National 1 and the Championship.    We discuss that match vs Saracens in the Premiership and how he reacted after the game and what has changed during his 10 years officiating in the top league.  Luke takes us through refereeing France vs Wales and how he works with his team on match days and how much he enjoys refereeing at the Community game level. Enjoy.