Today we chat with Bill Graber and Steve Rogers of the Energy Conservatory, also known as TEC, a 40-year-old company that is on a mission to unite the tools and test instruments used in the HVAC and Weatherization markets…an important quest I am also dedicated to.   We’ll talk what innovation means at TEC.   The dictionary says innovation is the act or process of innovating. OK,   So what is innovating? “To make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas, or products.”   “To introduce something new, especially a product.”   Aha, that is it! It’s the ACTION or ACTIVITY that is important.   We learn about the challenge of creating something that is “neat” (we engineers understand that you create something because you could, versus creating something that is “neat” AND useful.   This is a rare peek inside the doors of a manufacturer into their R&D labs and into the brains of an innovative company discovering the challenges and types of decisions that need to be made to satisfy their customers and advance the trades. Website links:  www.energyconservatory.com www.HVACairflow.com Email:  srogers@energyconservatory.com bgraber@energyconservatory.com This episode was recorded in July 2022.